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    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:02:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Document index for Virtual Infrastructure</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/8964?tstart=0#8964</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d3fd0533-ac03-4e25-bac0-98435635854c] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wow, what a call for what I've had written on my whiteboard and in my other locations/repositories for quite some time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My next two versions of 'one stop shops' are around Exchange and SQL&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are slated with the kind of priorities they have around them... which they'll eventually be released in my one-stop shop variety as soon as I get around to it - Had some no-network weekends recently, so didn't have the opportunity to do it then.&amp;#160; I usually do these things late at nights or on weekends so when the time permits I'll definitely get the next version out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Glad it could be useful and helpful, I also go back and refer to it myself &lt;img height="16px" src="http://communities.netapp.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d3fd0533-ac03-4e25-bac0-98435635854c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:02:42 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/8964?tstart=0#8964</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-03-31T20:02:42Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>7 months, 3 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Document index for Virtual Infrastructure</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/8694?tstart=0#8694</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8635678b-e160-43c8-82bc-b372f36a488f] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for the mention Chris!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I try to keep the data contained in there current, when I there's been an update or new TR as well as timing and availability permitting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm glad you find it useful, because I also use it as my source for answers when thinking about Virtualization in a NetApp context, while looking for TR's or Whitepapers &lt;img height="16px" src="http://communities.netapp.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8635678b-e160-43c8-82bc-b372f36a488f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:42:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/8694?tstart=0#8694</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-03-26T15:42:27Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 3 hours ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Removing Snapmirrors</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/5702?tstart=0#5702</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5dd11a94-8441-4917-ace3-74c462230a4b] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Joey,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You have a number of different options depending upon how you want to operate (GUI or CLI) and also to what extent you want to operate with the information.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'll make a number of assumptions and you tell me when I'm horribly wrong!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First scenario: I have uninitialized snapmirrors and I want to get rid of them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;GUI: Go in to Filer View, find the entries in the Snapmirror section and choose delete.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CLI: rdfile /etc/snapmirror.conf - Modify and remove the line from the un-init'd snapmirror - wrfile with the results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Alternate: using snapmirror release&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;systemA&amp;gt; snapmirror release vol/vol1/qtree2 systemB:/vol/vol2/qtree5&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://now.netapp.com/NOW/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel73_vs/html/ontap/onlinebk/protecting/task/t_oc_prot_sm-release-partners-from-relationship.html"&gt;snapmirror release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now, I would be ignorant of the reality of your situation if I were to stop there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here is what happens in most scenarios when following through with the steps I mentioned above:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Someone goes to the destination, releases, deletes or otherwise using CLI or GUI, and they go about their business with no more snapmirrors being sent.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A few days (or weeks, or months depending upon block changes at source) goes by, and all of a sudden they're running out of snap reserve at the source.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If/when you break an established snapmirror relationship, it is pertinent to go into the source and ensure that any leftover snapshots are cleaned up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;An example may be like this showing up in a 'snap list'&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0% ( 0%)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0% ( 0%)&amp;nbsp; May 15 15:45&amp;nbsp; FILER(00000000)_filer_mirror.8160 (snapmirror)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So being that it is now December, and you have a snapshot out there from May, this could be a problem!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That being the case, I'd suggest cleaning it up!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are ofcourse other scenarios and situations in which I'd deal with your question and problem, but I'd start there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did I touch on your question or miss the ball completely?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks Joey!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5dd11a94-8441-4917-ace3-74c462230a4b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:58:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/5702?tstart=0#5702</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-12-22T08:58:03Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>11 months, 4 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: snap list hanging</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/5696?tstart=0#5696</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b0281e61-4653-4763-ab07-8a7d6fdf4f40] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Brian,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Curious does this hang on a particular volume or does it hang across all volumes?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If I were troubleshooting this out on my filer, I'd do a snap list volume, one by one in order to determine which one(s) may be where this is occurring.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I personally would encounter hangs at times when I had a large number of snapshots kept online which were all extremely large.&amp;nbsp; It would hang initially while checking but eventually it would return results.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So, tracking down the volume(s) in question which are causing it would be my first step.&amp;nbsp; Then try to do similar steps against the particular volumes which may be experiencing this, perhaps even try ZAPI calls (using the SDK in a worst case scenario)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This certainly won't fix your problem but it's a good way to help sort out what may be going on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Curious, do you get a similar hanging effect when executing a 'snap list -A' ?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck and look forward to hearing how this goes!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b0281e61-4653-4763-ab07-8a7d6fdf4f40] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:44:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/5696?tstart=0#5696</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-12-21T03:44:38Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>11 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Move traditional to flex vols</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4809?tstart=0#4809</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a6a10fda-c116-46de-b179-d75edf2b382f] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Adam mentions, QSM is the easiest of the ways - If they can afford to lose/leave the snapshots on the old system.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've migrated a number of systems from Tradvols to Flexvols, and went the Qtree route, leaving the old volumes available so we can access their snapshots if needed until such a time that they are appropriately aged out and off of the system.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a6a10fda-c116-46de-b179-d75edf2b382f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:00:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4809?tstart=0#4809</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-11-03T19:00:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 2 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: ? Recovering snap reserve space for a LUN</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4681?tstart=0#4681</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:546caf5d-c7ce-43f3-8662-f119250b5228] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;What you are seeing is indeed correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let me know if this example describes your situation, and perhaps the misunderstanding.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I create a 100gb lun on a 200gb volume.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The filer shows: 100gb in use, with 60gb avaliable and 40gb available in Snap Reserve&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From the Windows host, I show 100gb available in my lun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If I were to go increase or decrease my Snap Reserve, the amount of space available in my volume will indeed change (to be more or less)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, within Windows and within the LUN the amount of available space will remain the same.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The lun is only as large as the space you specified, and will remain that maximum size usable (100gb lun will only ever show 100gb max available space in windows) - Regardless of the size of the volume it sits on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At which point, if you want to increase the size of the lun, you can use the lun resize command, and manually extend the LUN within Windows.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hopefully this helps with what you're doing Thomas,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:546caf5d-c7ce-43f3-8662-f119250b5228] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:07:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>community@netapp.com</author>
      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4681?tstart=0#4681</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-22T21:07:17Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Resized LUN now unable to see in Disk Manager</title>
      <link>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4358?tstart=0#4358</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ae0d6414-7c2b-462a-8f8a-411ae510149b] --&gt;&lt;div class='jive-rendered-content'&gt;&lt;p&gt;James, &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Windows XP like Windows 2003 has a 2tb limit with MBR volumes &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Check out this KB Article which covers some details there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="https://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb31440"&gt;https://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb31440&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I've hit this in the past, it usually involved having to revert back on my LUN (Not too fun) and create a new LUN which is GPT.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let me know if you have any questions on this, this is never fun to hit.. any chance for a revert?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(2TB Luns on Windows XP? - Were you also using SnapDrive, or manually expanding with diskpart?)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks James, and hopefully we can get you out of this mess which the Microsoft MBR vs GPT has put you in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Christopher&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ae0d6414-7c2b-462a-8f8a-411ae510149b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:16:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <guid>http://communities.netapp.com/message/4358?tstart=0#4358</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-10-03T22:16:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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